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Rise of the Guardians-Pitch by Amoraim Rise of the Guardians-Pitch by Amoraim
Dreams and Phantasms
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CrackedHopehead Featured By Owner May 6, 2014
I really like this. Its expressive and I wonder- why butterflies. Why does the Boogeyman dream of butterflies? I'm reading the books right now so maybe I'm going to find out ♥ great picture
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o-TraumaTize-o Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013  Student Filmographer
"To see a butterfly in your dream signifies longevity, creativity, romance, joy and spirituality. You may be experiencing a new way of thinking. Or you are undergoing some sort of transformation. Alternatively, a butterfly refers to your need to settle down. You are lacking focus in your life. You tend to be flighty and jump from one thing to another."

"The butterfly is symbolic of an intense transformation for the better and as such, it is associated with the soul and resurrection. It is sometimes thought to be an omen of death in the family. When associated with death, the dream butterfly appears to prepare the dreamer for the loss of loved one."

-Dream Meanings for Butterflies

:shrug: Well, there are more meanings; I think there was a meaning behind the whole "Pitch dreams about butterflies" bit, and it made me feel bad for Pitch. :c But this is lovely, I really love the sand effect. I'm still trying to master that effect for my ROTG drawings. You even colored it beautifully well! :heart:
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HollyleafR0CKS Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013
This reminds me of the part were Sandy makes pitch dream of butterflys! lol, Oh sorry *SPOILER*
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vaporsheart Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
he's like, ewww butterflies -_-
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Sandy-Sanderson Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2013
I wish some people would see the good in Pitch.......
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Sarah2977 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2013
me too sandy
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Sandy-Sanderson Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2013
*nods* Sure, he can go crazy, but doesn't everyone sometimes?! Besides, he had a sad past....
And fear isn't always bad, though it can be taken to far. But fear DOES protect, whether me and Pitch are oppisites or not.
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AnyCartoonRP-Pitch Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013
((I've not read the books yet,but reading up about the character and watching the movie, as dark as he is, he doesn't seem interested in really HURTING children, let along killing them. He just does what he does. He seems more violent towards other beings like himself, via that guardians and man in the moon, etc.

Even in the movie, he seemed more interested in taunting the kids than actually attacking them. I actually noticed, when he's talking about the Dark Ages, when he notices the guardians, he sees come kids and bends down for them. To me, he didn't look like he was going to be necessarily scary, but just...acknowledged. I don't even think he was "on the clock" 24/7. So yeah, he could be scary, but the Boogeyman is also a tool to make children behave and be obedient to their parents. Good children normally had nothing to worry about with him, aside from a bad dream once in a while. You want scary...you should read up some of the German tales of the Sandman. He used to pluck out the eyes of naughty children and feed them to his children on the moon LOL. Boogeyman tales are pretty tame by comparison to the Sandman fairy tales...and more practical.))
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Sandy-Sanderson Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2013
It's true. My parents are always trying to scare me into things, and so our my brothers. Pitch is a mature guy, I guess just wanting to be noticed and seen by children. He doesn't REALLY want to hurt anyone, but just be known and teach the kids 'lessons' not by hurting them, but by scaring them into reality about what could happen if they did so and so. And Everyone needs a break SOMETIME, so I am absolutely sure Pitch Black takes a break a few times a year. Who knows?
I really think that inside, he's just a polite man with a reputation of the Boogeyman to keep.
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AnyCartoonRP-Pitch Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2013
((He does seem very polite in general. He gets loud when he's angry or excited but so quiet when he speaks any other time. I think in the end of the movie, his "strike" against the children themselves was more desperation.. I mean, if he COULD have grabbed one of the children, what would he have done? I think after grabbing one of them up...he had nothing. Just the self-validation that he still had a presence over them. As I said, on his own, the first time around, he didn't attack or run at those children in the dark ages. He just bent down to face them. Heck even when he's talking to Jamie, he's very level.

He didn't seem too interested in doing physical harm to him...just spooking him. I think Pitch is more a Boogeyman after my own heart in the sense that he goes for where the damage is less visible...psychologically. Think of a horror movie...a slasher flick is scary but not after it's over. Cuz your villain dies and it's very forward. A psychological horror flick, no matter what happens to your villain, you are left feeling very uncomfortable. The physical threat is no longer there, but the attack on your sensibilities has left a mark.

...Also...does this strike you as hilariously strange that...a Boogeyman and a Sandman are having this conversation? LOL ))
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Sandy-Sanderson Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2013
(( If I'm correct, Pitch WAS a general in past life, right? He was fine, protecting people who now fear him. In a way, he still protects people like that scaring people so they don't do stupid things. Pitch does seem the kind of guy who would always be quiet, but when he gets loud, who knows how much he'll burst.
If Pitch did grab any children, the worst I'd say he would do is 'hold them captive' long enough to scare them, then let them go with a 'threat.'

No physical harm is right, and scaring is the Boogeyman's job for moons sake!

(It DOES seem odd if Pitch and Sandy were REALLY having this convo! xP )))
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AnyCartoonRP-Pitch Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2013
((I can so see them at a cafe sipping coffee and discussing this LOL

Yes, I believe he served in the empire the Man in the Moon was to lead. He was a general and responsible for helping to capture the fearlings. He left his daughter to guard the prison they were in. But they tricked him into thinking she was in there with them, so he opened the door to save her. However, once they consumed him, he forgot who he was. I've not read the books yet so the little details, I dunno. But that's the general synopsis of his back story [and I do know a LITTLE more but don't want to spoil it for others].

Agreed that he'd likely just hold a child hostage to scare them and then let them go. It would simply be a word of mouth transference of information to make others believe. I do notice that he loses his sh*t when he panics and just says and does goofy things. I think the most active I saw him in the movie, without ANY provocation of any sort was his little dance on the globe at the North Pole near the end, when he's snubbing out lights.

Ah, this is a fun convo. Considering I was planning on writing a novel about the boogeyman [obviously of my original design,not a fanfic], this discussion does help me think of the finer points to consider when creating the characters I'll need for the story.))
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Sarah2977 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013
true you are opposites and true everyone goes crazy
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Sandy-Sanderson Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013
*nods*
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Rilguia Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Student General Artist
Awesome picture!!! the sand effect it's so well done!! :la:
just one question, what does the butterflies represent?
because I've been watching a lot of pictures about Pitch and
there are a lot of them where you can see him along with
butterflies, does it have something to do with his daughter?
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fantasydreamtima Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist
I never read the books but I heard that the butterflies are kind of the symbol of his daughter
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Amoraim Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
Perhaps, Dreaming of butterflies when he fell when he was beaten.
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Rilguia Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Student General Artist
:nod: it's true...
I don't know why I thought
it could be related with his
daughter...since she was Mother
Nature...maybe just a coincidence :shrug:
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Amoraim Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
The reason I painted butterflies...um!
(It is difficult to compose a sentence in English.So, as much as possible, I say a word, not a sentence. OTL)

In the ROTG Movie ☞ Film's second half☞ pitch Collapsed ☞and, He fell asleep ☞ and, Over his head, a few of'em butterflies(made ​​of sand) danced.

And, I guess↓
[The sand, Floating above head the people(pleeping)] = [They saw it in a dream.]
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Rilguia Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Student General Artist
Oh right! I remember that scene...
Poor, poor Pitch...ouch... :doh:
thanks a lot for the clarification!:lol:
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Slendydragon9 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That is SO COOL!
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flying-soap Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is so cute its comical. :D
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AsymptoticWay Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:star: Featured here [link] :star:
Have a nice day! :heart:
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Amoraim Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
Have a nice day, too! >_<
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ZennyMarchlog Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
SANDMAAANNNN ;A; PITCH TURNED SANDY INTO NIGHTMAREE
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InPBo Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012  Student General Artist
;A;
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ZennyMarchlog Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
;O;
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Amoraim Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
I like them!
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CatWoman-cali-onyx Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Nightmares meet dreams.
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Amoraim Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
And those two have created an illusion.
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ThePoetstears Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Interesting concept. The butterflies are a nice touch.
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Amoraim Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Thank you!
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